Comments on: The New Google Reader http://blog.instantcognition.com/web-analytics/2006/10/02/the-new-google-reader/ a discussion of visual report design & web analytics Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:42:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: » Battle of the RSS readers: Bloglines versus Google Reader - iQ Blog http://blog.instantcognition.com/web-analytics/2006/10/02/the-new-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-22623 » Battle of the RSS readers: Bloglines versus Google Reader - iQ Blog Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:32:51 +0000 http://blog.instantcognition.com/2006/10/02/the-new-google-reader/#comment-22623 [...] Instant Cognition.com [...] [...] Instant Cognition.com [...]

]]> By: Clint http://blog.instantcognition.com/web-analytics/2006/10/02/the-new-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-1369 Clint Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:35:51 +0000 http://blog.instantcognition.com/2006/10/02/the-new-google-reader/#comment-1369 Corkage ;~), so you would say that Google has an opportunity for better integration between their reader and the reader widget for the home page? Corkage ;~), so you would say that Google has an opportunity for better integration between their reader and the reader widget for the home page?

]]> By: Corkage http://blog.instantcognition.com/web-analytics/2006/10/02/the-new-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-1354 Corkage Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:23:03 +0000 http://blog.instantcognition.com/2006/10/02/the-new-google-reader/#comment-1354 I was just moving my rss feeds from my homepage of Google to the reader and I noticed this post as I was migrating instantcongnition. I was always annoyed that I did not have the capability to release a feed once I had read it with it being posted to the Google homepage. I agree that the attention is key and the not the pageview. I was just moving my rss feeds from my homepage of Google to the reader and I noticed this post as I was migrating instantcongnition. I was always annoyed that I did not have the capability to release a feed once I had read it with it being posted to the Google homepage. I agree that the attention is key and the not the pageview.

]]> By: Clint http://blog.instantcognition.com/web-analytics/2006/10/02/the-new-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-1119 Clint Mon, 02 Oct 2006 23:58:15 +0000 http://blog.instantcognition.com/2006/10/02/the-new-google-reader/#comment-1119 Stéphane, thanks for the comment! I too think that focus+time would need to be adjusted per the length the post, hence my question about the average time needed to read certain numbers of words on a screen - my full post view might only be your 3/4 post view. I like your suggested KPIs, especially the first one. I don't think that page view is superceded by post view, just that the audience is different. If I'm the Google Reader Product Manager, then page views to the Google Reader are probably still important to me, but if I'm the blogger, post views is more important. Both the aggregator (Google Reader) and the content provider (blogger) would be interested in all metrics both page-centric and post-centric but what they focus on and find most valuable will be different. -Clint Stéphane,
thanks for the comment!
I too think that focus+time would need to be adjusted per the length the post, hence my question about the average time needed to read certain numbers of words on a screen - my full post view might only be your 3/4 post view.
I like your suggested KPIs, especially the first one.
I don’t think that page view is superceded by post view, just that the audience is different. If I’m the Google Reader Product Manager, then page views to the Google Reader are probably still important to me, but if I’m the blogger, post views is more important. Both the aggregator (Google Reader) and the content provider (blogger) would be interested in all metrics both page-centric and post-centric but what they focus on and find most valuable will be different.

-Clint

]]> By: shamel67 http://blog.instantcognition.com/web-analytics/2006/10/02/the-new-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-1118 shamel67 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 23:24:52 +0000 http://blog.instantcognition.com/2006/10/02/the-new-google-reader/#comment-1118 Quick un-technical answer: One of the first thing I did in the new Google Reader incarnation is to go under Settings/Preferences and uncheck "Scroll tracking", which is "In expanded view, mark items as read when you scroll past them." Your questions are interesting! Even if a post is in the current focus, nothing tells you the person is actually reading it. However, in expanded view, you should notice the framed color around an individual post changes as you scroll. A nice touch from Google. I think the idea of "onFocus" + time could have some meaning, but "time" should be ajusted based on the post length. Some KPI: - ratio of focus time to post length (longer post/longer focus, shorter post/shorter focus, but ratio tells us how much attention was awarded to an indiviual post) - feed depth (out of X new posts, how many were read?) - in this case, could the notion of "page view" be replaced by "post view"? This always remind me of "The Attention Economy" by Davenport. We used to try to get attention to our sites, now we try to get attention to individual posts! S.Hamel http://shamel.blogspot.com Quick un-technical answer: One of the first thing I did in the new Google Reader incarnation is to go under Settings/Preferences and uncheck “Scroll tracking”, which is “In expanded view, mark items as read when you scroll past them.”

Your questions are interesting! Even if a post is in the current focus, nothing tells you the person is actually reading it. However, in expanded view, you should notice the framed color around an individual post changes as you scroll. A nice touch from Google. I think the idea of “onFocus” + time could have some meaning, but “time” should be ajusted based on the post length.

Some KPI:
- ratio of focus time to post length (longer post/longer focus, shorter post/shorter focus, but ratio tells us how much attention was awarded to an indiviual post)
- feed depth (out of X new posts, how many were read?)
- in this case, could the notion of “page view” be replaced by “post view”?

This always remind me of “The Attention Economy” by Davenport. We used to try to get attention to our sites, now we try to get attention to individual posts!

S.Hamel
http://shamel.blogspot.com

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